Obamar for or against Israel?

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Permalink Reply by Cody Flecker on August 9, 2009 at 10:31pm

For one thing, Obama is the man's name not Obmar. Anti-Semitic Presidents are nothing new in US politics. Practically every President in the 20th century was anti-semitic. This includes Harry Truman, who even had a Jewish partner in business at one time. Expecting much more out of Obama is like asking for a miracle. Anti-Semites do not have change of hearts. When you are evil, that evil stays with you for eternity. There is no going back. Jews on the other hand always expect miracles. Unless that miracle comes directly from God, don't bother to expect one from man. It just will not happen.

Permalink Reply by Yisrael Baruch on August 9, 2009 at 10:53pm

Well i do agree that Obama turned out to be a man of NOTHING BUT TALK..
I do agree with Cody Flecker, There has been and always will be Anti-Semitic Presidents no matter what Ethnicity or Religion or if they worked their way up like Obama did..
They have always been there, Like Cody said About Harry Truman But thats ancient history so lets not dwel on that.

I think that by Obama becoming president showed us that nobody can really bring Change like he promised America.
Obama is a Flake, and a fast Fly Killer...lol...

But what about The Vice President Of America?? Isn't he Jewish?? and if he is Wassup with him not saying or doing anything??

Lets not expect miracles from men PERIOD...

And lets just wait for HaShem to provide that for us..

My prayers for Israel and IDF are always being said from me..

This is a good topic and i think Every Jew should participate on this..

Permalink Reply by Anthony David Cohen on August 9, 2009 at 11:11pm

Cody thank you for your input and for the right spelling of Obama. Your comment was very well put. I have to admit that I really did expected for Obama to make the change. Now I know that every american president are nothing but snow flakes and liars! Once again I thank you for your inpit.

Cody Flecker said:

For one thing, Obama is the man's name not Obmar. Anti-Semitic Presidents are nothing new in US politics. Practically every President in the 20th century was anti-semitic. This includes Harry Truman, who even had a Jewish partner in business at one time. Expecting much more out of Obama is like asking for a miracle. Anti-Semites do not have change of hearts. When you are evil, that evil stays with you for eternity. There is no going back. Jews on the other hand always expect miracles. Unless that miracle comes directly from God, don't bother to expect one from man. It just will not happen.

Permalink Reply by Anthony David Cohen on August 9, 2009 at 11:17pm

Yirael
Thank you for your input. And like Cody you made a very good point. And what is up with the vice president? What is he doing or saying about all this. Or did he change his spots?

I am glad to hear that there are people out there who are praying for Israel and for our men and women of IDF. Lets not forget them and keep them in our prayer. Once again thank you for your reply.

Yisrael Baruch said:

Well i do agree that Obama turned out to be a man of NOTHING BUT TALK..
I do agree with Cody Flecker, There has been and always will be Anti-Semitic Presidents no matter what Ethnicity or Religion or if they worked their way up like Obama did..
They have always been there, Like Cody said About Harry Truman But thats ancient history so lets not dwel on that.

I think that by Obama becoming president showed us that nobody can really bring Change like he promised America.
Obama is a Flake, and a fast Fly Killer...lol...

But what about The Vice President Of America?? Isn't he Jewish?? and if he is Wassup with him not saying or doing anything??

Lets not expect miracles from men PERIOD...

And lets just wait for HaShem to provide that for us..

My prayers for Israel and IDF are always being said from me..

This is a good topic and i think Every Jew should participate on this..

Permalink Reply by Jacob Yisrael Goldstein on August 9, 2009 at 11:58pm

Obama is bad. He not friend of Israel. He enemy! He two face liar! Flecker and Yisrael right. But V/P not real Jew. He playing card so Obama get vote. Israel all ways stand alone and will never be defeated. NEVER! We not bow down to no one or give in.

Permalink Reply by Cody Flecker on August 10, 2009 at 2:53pm

Jacob Yisrael Goldstein said:

Obama is bad. He not friend of Israel. He enemy! He two face liar! Flecker and Yisrael right. But V/P not real Jew. He playing card so Obama get vote. Israel all ways stand alone and will never be defeated. NEVER! We not bow down to no one or give in.

Permalink Reply by Cody Flecker on August 10, 2009 at 2:58pm

One main issue with Obama was his bowing down to the King of Saudi Arabia. There are several times in our lives that we bow down to someoner or something, but never to a potentate such as this Arabian. We bow down to God on the High Holidays, and we bow down to children when we instruct them on being decent human beings through education. When Obama bowed to the Saudi King he basically said to the American People that "this king is really my king" My allegiance is to him and not to the very people I am supposed to serve. A Zebra does not change his or her stripes. Only God can do that. Obama readily admitted who his king is. As Jews can we support this two faced liar? I don't think so.

Permalink Reply by Anthony David Cohen on August 10, 2009 at 4:18pm

THank you Jacob for sharing your views. I agree with you that Obama is bad and he is the enemy. Also the staement you made about the vice president. Like you said Israel will NOT bow down to anyone. Obama will, as you will see from what our friend Cody has said.

Once again thank you

Jacob Yisrael Goldstein said:

Obama is bad. He not friend of Israel. He enemy! He two face liar! Flecker and Yisrael right. But V/P not real Jew. He playing card so Obama get vote. Israel all ways stand alone and will never be defeated. NEVER! We not bow down to no one or give in.

Permalink Reply by Anthony David Cohen on August 10, 2009 at 4:21pm

Cody thank you for your respond and for enlighten us on the matter of Obama bowing down. This is something that I did not know. It blew me away! Your input is really an enlightment and has open my eyes to this matter. Once again Thank You

Cody Flecker said:

One main issue with Obama was his bowing down to the King of Saudi Arabia. There are several times in our lives that we bow down to someoner or something, but never to a potentate such as this Arabian. We bow down to God on the High Holidays, and we bow down to children when we instruct them on being decent human beings through education. When Obama bowed to the Saudi King he basically said to the American People that "this king is really my king" My allegiance is to him and not to the very people I am supposed to serve. A Zebra does not change his or her stripes. Only God can do that. Obama readily admitted who his king is. As Jews can we support this two faced liar? I don't think so.

Permalink Reply by Cody Flecker on August 10, 2009 at 10:45pm

Jews tend to be Democrats regardless of their station in life. Rich Jews, poor Jews, educated and uneducated all tend to vote and act in a "democratic" fashion. What is the reason for this? Basically the answer lies in the fact that Jews have always at least for the past 2000 years had to sit in the middle of life's affairs. Riding the fence so to speak guaranteed survival. This is hard to imagine this theory here in the USA, but go to Europe, or be in the Middle East in any number of Moslem countries this rationale seems appropriate. Jews in America were the first to volunteer for civil rights for Blacks. The first to donate funds for many of these Black causes. The first to set up woman's and ethnic studies nationwide. The first to declare solidarity with many of the oppressed peoples in the USA and worldwide, yet with all of this the world always remembers and never lets us forget that the Jews must be placed in the center lest they realize that our aim is world domination. This is why there never will be a Jewish president, or even a Vice-President.